M1 carbine, myth or bad marksmanship parallaxbills. I just recently inherited a plainfield carbine, seems to be in really good shape in and out, however my first range session was some what startling, after loading and successfully shooting 3 rounds, the 2nd 3 rd string doubled fired and jammed the 3rd round. The m1 carbine formally the united states carbine, caliber. All matching numbers original sights original stock with bayonet mint bore. I was told it was purchased in 1966 has a stamping of r8xx for the serial number. Army ordnance training manual for ordnance personnel servicing these carbines was tm 91276 1947, 1953. The m1 carbine was appreciated, first and foremost, for its weight. The plainfield machine company was a small manufacturing company owned by william haas and william stork that, among other things, produced m1 carbines for the civilian market. This is a discussion on quality of the plainfield and universal m1 carbines within the steel and wood forums, part of the rifle forum category. The value of any firearm is based on exact make, model, and condition. Military decision to adopt the m1 carbine, especially when considering the vast numbers of. The only rifles manufactured by plainfield machine were their models based on the m1 carbine. The standard catalog of firearms values your m1 carbine at.
Half as heavy as the m1 rifle, it was quite handy and its fifteen, and later in the war, thirty round magazine gave a fair amount of firepower. The first barrels 19621963 were 12 groove, followed by 6 groove barrels 19641969, then the standard 4 grooves common to the gi m1 carbine barrels in the 1970s. Of all of the commercial m1 carbines, plainfields are the most soughtafter. The stolen guns were passed out to the men on the streets of plainfield that very night. They also made a couple of pistols that, while quality.
I was just working on my inland manufactured m1 carbine, 1943 production, stamped and laminated trigger housing, cmp purchase. First, they used to build m2 fullauto carbine knockoffs for the law enforcementexport market. The carbine thing youre thinking about was built and promoted by melvin johnson. Given the high volume production, receivers were generally assembled as part of a carbine within a few months after the receiver was serial numbered. M2 selective fire carbine w flash hider nra museums. Plainfield machine produced m1 carbines from 1960 to 1977, when they were. When you are ready to look for collector grade carbines you cannot go wrong in investing in this book. Many were placed into service by police departments across the country.
They assembled usgi parts to a newly made cast steel receiver. Large unparalleled m1a1 section with full illustrations and details on all of its. Plainfield machine company was the first commercial producer of 100% usgi interchangeable parts. A wonderful book that takes the user through the history of the m1 garand. Carbine models m1, m1a1, or m2 were made well after the receiver was completed as all of these models used the same receiver. Plainfield carbine gun and game the friendliest gun. It is a light rifle round designed to be fired from the m1 carbines 18inch 458 mm barrel. In the 1960s, jim cirillo, from the nypds stake out squad, and author of tales of the stakeout squad, used a nypdissue m1 carbine with g. A riflemans view a recount of the war in the pacific during world war two. Complete guide to the m1 garand and the m1 carbine.
The other weekend while participating in this months practical match at my club i had to forego the use of my carbine as the ammo id brought failed to function and i had to borrow a rifle from a friend. That same night in nearby middlesex an arms factory was broken into and 46 automatic weapons were stolen. This is renowned by the experts as the best commercial carbine that was ever made and appears to have been upgraded by the previous owner. Hello there, please reply if you have heard anything about a plainfield m1 carbine. Between june 1942 and august 1945, ten primary contractors and dozens of subcontractors established manufacturing facilities, tooled up, and produced over six million m1 carbines under the.
Plainfield machine made these back in the midlate 1960s from usgi surplus parts. Wartime production by craig riesch, a north cape publications. Plainfield carbines are made up of all usgi surplus parts except for the receiver that was produced by plainfield machine. Plainfield manufactured m1 carbines in the 60s and 70s for law enforcement agencies. Guns for sale plainfield machine, dunellen m1 carbine. Theyre nice rifles, but they werent designed to improve on the m1 garand. The worlds most popular and respected author on world war ii firearms presents his most complete examination of the m1 garand and the m1 carbine ever. Plainfield carbines were, and are, considered the best postwar commercial clone on the market. The decision for which receivers would be used for the u. The history of who made what during the brief 38 months of production is a story that can and does fill a book.
We look back at what happened and forward to where the city is headed. Commerciallyproduced copies were also available from plainfield, iver. The m1 and m2 were the only ones to be made in large numbers. It is in very good condition considering its age some minor scratches on the stock but the action is very clean and shows minimal wear. From this and the knowledge of plainfields involvement with millville ordnance it is estimated the first plainfield machine co. The m2 carbine is a selective fire version of the m1 featuring a selector switch. After the gi carbines were no longer being manufactured, plainfield bought up all of the surplus parts they could find. May 01, 2017 me shooting my plainfield machine company m1 carbine at the range. These rifles were popular in the 1960s and many were sold to police departments. Its absolutely huge nearly 300 pages packed solid with the kind of useful, handson knowledge that readers have been demanding. Some of the carbines remained in service or in storage overseas, many others returned home to america, where they were inspected and rebuilt to the updated standards set for the. He said the area, and understand i do not know the proper description he used, but the portion the barrel attaches to is cracked and he said he would not fire it in this condition.
Browse all new and used military rifles m1 carbine for sale and buy with. Mechanical designs of the carbine and working parts were developed by david. Another recommended book is guide to collecting the m1 carbine by robert gibson no relation, by the way. The m1 carbine of world war ii, such as this example made by winchester, gained great favor and fame among american g. Im not really sure what to look for in terms of correcting this problem. Might i suggest you find a copy of war baby or m1 carbine design, development and production by larry ruth. The book is extremely informative with detailed illustrations, pictures, drawings and factual data of the day. Took it to a gunsmith to check it out before firing. Could a few owners possibly comment on the quality of these 2 remakes of the m1 carbine. History, development, selecting the rifle, disassembly, assembly, inspection, cleaning, zeroing, and much more. Unfortunately plainfield went out of business around the early 70s. The rifles were usually good shooters but dont have nearly as much value as a genuine usgi carbine. Carbines are presented in four different sections, each consisting of one or more pages.
The m1 carbine was developed as a light rifle, chambered for. Dont confuse this book with others, this one is correct. The plainfield ordnance name was soon dropped and not reinstituted until the 1970s with the introduction of their small semiauto pistol line see below. Johnson introduced a version of the m1 carbine called the spitfire that fired a 5. I may be off on the price, i havent priced an m1 carbine in at least several years, have a plainfield and an inland usgi. M1 carbines were manufactured in approximately april of 1962.
About 1962 plainfield switched to acquiring their barrels from small arms manufacturing of bridgeville, pa, predecessor to the current barrel manufacturer e. Powder horn continued handling plainfield machines retail contacts until approximately 1967, after which plainfield sold factory direct, mail order, and through distributors and wholesalers. Intended to arm soldiers who need lightweight arms, the pdw is a handy weapon that does not get in the way of other. Military rifles m1 carbine for sale guns international. They also made a couple of pistols that, while quality made, faded into. Second, they were based in dunellen, nj, in a state where the m1 carbine is now illegal for some unfathomable reason. It is a plainfield machine company m2 made in 1962. Me shooting my plainfield machine company m1 carbine at the range. The supervising machinist throughout most of plainfield s carbine history was jim mcnultey. The m1 carbine was used with the m8 grenade launcher, which was developed in early 1944. Stress from firing rifle grenades would eventually crack the carbines stock. When you are ready to look for collector grade carbines you cannot go wrong in investing in this book titled m1 carbine by roger c. I always blew off the m1 carbine as just another pointless rifle wannabe. It has a hardwood stock in the same configuration as the originals.
Quality of the plainfield and universal m1 carbines m14 forum. The story of how 10 companies, only one of which was a gun maker, came together to make 6. The m1 carbine is a lightweight semiautomatic carbine that was a standard firearm for the u. Bruce canfields books are always worthwhile reading for the interested student of history. Quality of the plainfield and universal m1 carbines.
M1 carbine mfg in mid 70s with about 200 rds through her. Others praised the m1 carbine such as john george author of the book shots fired in anger. Oct 05, 2015 others praised the m1 carbine such as john george author of the book shots fired in anger. Plainfield did not differentiate m1 or m2 serial numbers but rather ran sequential. They were designed to relieve the m1 garand as the primary arm for radio operators, machine gun crews, tankers, artillerymen,forward observers, engineers and others whose primary function was not that of an infantry rifleman, and provide more power, and longer range than the 1911.
It jammed constantly, would pop off 3 rounds in full automatic occassionally then jam. Army ordnance training manual for ordnance personnel servicing these carbines was tm 91276. Plainfield m1 carbine the firearms forum the buying. It was not much of a rifle and in no way compared to the wwii saginaw carbine i used to own. What is the value of a plainfield m1 carbine answers. This is renowned by the experts as the best commercial carbine that was ever made and appears to have been upgraded by the previous owner at some point. There were also commercial m1 carbine models produced from 1960s to 1980s by iver johnson, plainfield machine co. Glossary from the blue book gun collector organizations from the blue book hard to. As a collector, next to the scott duff garand publications, this is a must have. A friend gave me an m1 carbine that shows plainfield as the maker. His version also sports an insanely compact and simple deployable stock that doubled as a foregrip when folded. Plainfield was one of the earliest m1 carbine replica makers.
These were of great quality and are notoriously accurate. Plainfield was one of these outfits and from 19621978 they produced some 112,000 m1 carbines for the civilian market. I dont much care for commercial m1 carbines so am not really up on their history, otoh some do prefer them over gi carbines. The m1 carbine was produced in several variants and was widely used by not only the u. It is considered by many carbine lovers as the best carbine clone ever to hit the market. Plainfield machine m1 carbine the firearms forum the. M1 carbine was arguably the first of the modern class of lightweight personal defense weapons pdw. They were designed to relieve the m1 garand as the primary arm for radio operators, machine gun crews, tankers, artillerymen,forward observers, engineers and others whose primary function was not that of an infantry rifleman, and provide more power, and longer range than the 1911, in. Given the high volume production, receivers were generally assembled. Jan 21, 2008 the standard catalog of firearms values your m1 carbine at. Its pretty cool, has the heat shield and grease tube in the stock. I only had it for about 3 months and traded it for something else i cant even remember what. What is the value of a plainfield m1 carbine paratrooper.
Here is an early example of a commercial m1 carbine, made in dunellen, nj by plainfield machine co. Dec 20, 2012 hello there, please reply if you have heard anything about a plainfield m1 carbine. M1 enforcer carbine pistols at ria forgotten weapons. Handgun calibers were reported as either revolvers, or pistols in calibers 22, 25, 32, 380, 9mm, and 45. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet but it is supposed a really fun rifle to shoot. Quality of the plainfield and universal m1 carbines m14. Small numbers of captured m1 carbines were used by german forces in world war ii. Its a good carbine, not the best, but a solid carbine. Small numbers of captured m1 carbines were used by german forces in world war ii, particularly after dday.
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